Alexandra Frean, Education Editor
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Private companies should be allowed to run state schools at a profit and be free to dismiss teachers who are not up to the job, the head of the Local Government Association (LGA) said yesterday.
They should also be able to “sweat” the most from their assets by hiring out their buildings and grounds in the holidays, Sir Simon Milton said.
In remarks that brought condemnation from teachers’ unions, Sir Simon said that the role of councils should be to buy education services on the open market from a variety of providers, including for-profit private concerns.
“I have no difficulty with that idea,” he said. “My view, and the LGA’s view, is that councils are not meant to run schools any more.”
Sir Simon, a senior Tory and former leader of Westminster City Council who advises the Mayor of London on planning and housing policy, said that the role of councils was merely to commission public services such as schools and then to maintain and improve standards by tracking performance closely. He envisaged a mix of privately run institutions, academies and schools run by parents or voluntary organisations, all within the state education sector.
“The future is to have different types of school to ensure there is real parental choice,” he told The Times.
His suggestion would set a precedent for privatisation in education. In the mainstream schools sector, and even in the academies programme, sponsors are not allowed to make a profit, and existing governance structures ensure that some community representation remains on governing boards.
Where outside organisations already run state schools, such as the Learning Trust in the London Borough of Hackney, they are set up as charities or trusts.
Sir Simon’s comments may put pressure on David Cameron, the Tory leader, to pursue even more rigorously his plans to make it easier for parents and other interested parties to set up and run their own state-funded schools.
Michael Gove, the Tory schools spokesman, agreed with Sir Simon that commercial companies should be allowed to run schools, adding that he had been courting potential bidders. “We have talked to a couple of private companies as well as philanthropic organisations. One company felt that being able to provide state education in England would be such a feather in their cap that they would be delighted to take up the opportunity,” he said.
However, he did not believe that companies should be able to make a profit from running state schools. Instead, they would plough all funding to the school. “The money we spend on education should stay within education,” he said.
Both Sir Simon and Mr Gove said that they would not allow such schools to operate on the basis of academic selection.
Sir Simon said that the national pay scales for teachers should be scrapped so that outstanding staff could be rewarded with higher pay than less able colleagues. Head teachers should also be paid the market rate to attract the best. “There may be heads for whom £200,000 is the right level,” he said.
Schools should also be supported by councils to sack teachers who were not up to scratch. “If you are a head going into a school to do a turnaround, you can very quickly realise that there are a handful of teachers who are not only not performing, but who are also, frankly, dragging down the whole staff-room,” he said. “It can take two years to remove a teacher on the grounds of poor performance and that’s just far too long.”
Sir Simon said all schools should do more to squeeze money out of their assets. “We have very expensive community assets called schools, sitting at the end of the road, which are closed in the summer. We need to incentivise schools and governing bodies to make their facilities more widely available.”
Chris Keates, general secretary of the teachers’ union NASUWT, said: “Sir Simon’s comments suggested that the sector would face massive upheaval under a Tory government. State education is about social justice and protecting the weak, vulnerable and disadvantaged. If you make all that subject to profits, you will be throwing the public service ethos out of the window.”
John Bangs, of the National Union of Teachers, feared that standards would drop if private companies ran schools at a profit because they would stick rigidly to their contracts with local councils, bringing no extra added value. “All the added value and extra commitment you currently get with staff in the public sector would be erased,” he said.
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Give parents a choice! Give out "school place vouchers" and let the parents send their children to a school of their choice not the government. We educate our children privately because we don't trust the state sector to do the job right. before you say anything, we don't have a good state school
terry, berks,
Simon- Company profits first, education quality and kids second
Presumably you don't like British Airways, Lloyds TSB and Bupa because they provide a rubbish service as they only want profit...
The drive for profit creates competition that improves service!
Arnold, UK,
George-
Get rid of all barriers on parental choice and let the schools run themselves and they will improve and be like independents.
Isn't that what this is? It's better because the chance to create profit incentivises companies to provid good services which parents can choose if they wish.
Arnold, UK,
Simon--I doubt that the East Germans ever made much money selling Trabants, but BMW and Mercedes sure made a packet. Why do you suppose that profit-making firms should be excluded from education? Would you rather your children received a Trabant-quality education, just for the sake of ideology?
Tom Burkard, Norwich,
Heads (with governors) should have control of their budgets, which means the power to hire the staff that they want and to pay them the market rate. However this can be done without involving the private sector.
Malcolm McLean, Bradford, UK
I remember a much-loved moment from the BBC Elizabeth R series. The courtiers were all happily plotting together when the Bishop of Something-or-other couldn't take it any more. "But this is -- heresy!" he hissed.
Christopher Chantrill, Seattle, USA
What is with the Tories trying to adopt the Bush Neo-Con mantra of private private private. Now they will be open to attack for a hidden agenda to privatize NHS & other things. The Neo-Con agenda is dead. This move is just stupid. The Tories seem determined to snatch Defeat from the jaws of Victory
Jason Pearson, Toronto, Canada
Great - hot on the heels of "we'll close many schools classed by Ofsted as good/ outstanding". Can't wait for next iniative/ product of thinktank.
diana bruce, derby,
The maximisation of use of assets is a good idea - but not running everything for profit - look at public transport!
Chris, Birmingham,
I am leaving Qatar since GEMS (Global Education Management Services) they of the Milton Keynes fiasco, have failed to increase the salary sufficiently to keep track of the dollar slump and inflation. They will not pay as profit comes first! They also have a staff of very tanned ex heads to support.
chris, Al Khor, Qatar
I would be more suprised if the Teacher's union supports the suggestion. We know there are now more poorly qualified teachers than before. The various Employment Laws introduced by this government has made the sacking of teachers impossible.
m, london,
How long before they end up as religious schools? What ever happened to church and state being separate, like it should be? Whatever happened to service, with things run by the state, like schools, public transport, post offices, electricity, gas, etc,were not failures if they did not make a profit?
margie , victoria, australia
Oh god NO! Privitization is NOT the answer! Did it work with the rail industry? Did it hell. All this is doing is putting government (taxpayer) funds into the hands of for-profit industry, whose agenda is to create worker bees for their industry, not teach children to be thinking, independant adults
Stephanie, Bristol, UK
Stupid idea. The best schools are independent schools and they are all charities NOT businesses. All state schools should be turned into charities - they already have a board of governors. They can be financed by vouchers, sponsorship, top up fees and scholarships.
william Haines, Northwood,
it's been said before but i'll repeat it; how can you judge a teacher. every class is different. it's like asking how long is a piece of string. and to paraphrase juvenal "who will judge the judges?" i suppose they'll want those leading examples of private enterprise, the bankers, to run things.
Philip Barnes, preston, england
"State education is about social justice and protecting the weak, vulnerable and disadvantaged."
Is that why it no longer educates?
RJA, Fleet,
Good idea! Perhaps then they would be as efficient as the trains, and hospital cleaning, and rubbish collection, and traffic wardens...
Kevin Straw, Leicester,
Schools are bad due to much goverment interferance, they have removed all the tool's to control disruptive children and then put more special needs kids then ever in main stream.
100% selection in schools are the way forwards, it may upset some, but your child is holding others back, simple as.
MR W Jones, Liverpool, England
It is essential that weak and incompetent teachers are removed from their jobs swiftly. It is also essential that weak and incompetent teachers do not get passed on, as it were, to other schools. I can see merit in this proposal.
Des, Edinburgh,
If the teaching unions are dead set against an idea then its probably because its against the average to bad teachers' interests. Unions are there to protect their members - and its generally the poor ones that need 'protection.' Sounds like this idea would improve education & give choice to parents
Donna Walker, Effingham, England
Remove all poor heads and bad teachers and schools will be left with few adults apart from the ancillaries. What education needs is simple - properly-educated teachers with proper degrees teaching proper subjects under heads who enforce proper discipline.
Jan Thomas, Nottingham, England
The Tories are out of touch. State schools are so bad because there is no real parental choice and schools have been nationalized and run with political priorities. Get rid of all barriers on parental choice and let the schools run themselves and they will improve and be like independents.
George, Bolton, England
It really is imperative for the success of the education system in the UK that teachers are much easier to remove than they are at the moment. Bad teachers, when they are at last recognised, are too difficult to get rid of. It's the children who then suffer...
Matthew Jones, Newcastle-under-Lyme, United Kingdom
Ouch. At a time when we are in need of real alternatives to the Labour party we are offered this. An awful idea. Company profits first education quality and kids second,
simon, Battersea, London,