Sean O’Neill, Security Editor
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We would like to make clear that the bookshop situated near the East London
Mosque is a commercial tenant of the Mosque and is situated on different
premises. The chairman of the Mosque, Dr
Muhammad Abdul Bari, has no responsibility for or control over the
material that is being sold there. We apologise to Dr Bari for any distress
caused.
East
London Mosque and London Muslim Centre
Books calling for the beheading of lapsed Muslims, ordering women to remain indoors and forbidding interfaith marriage are being sold inside some of Britain’s leading mosques, according to research seen by The Times.
Some of the fundamentalist works were found at the bookshop in the London Central mosque in Regent’s Park, which is funded by the Saudi regime and is regularly visited by government ministers. Its director, Ahmad al-Dubayan, is also a Saudi diplomat and was among those greeting King Abdullah when he arrived in Britain last night for his official state visit.
Extremist literature, including passages supporting the stoning of adulterers and waging violent jihad, was also found on sale at many other mosques regarded as mainstream institutions.
More than 80 books and pamphlets were collected during a year-long project in which researchers visited 100 mosques across Britain.
One book, Fatawa Islamiyah, which urges the execution of apostates, was found in bookshops at Regent’s Park mosque and at the huge East London mosque in Whitechapel.
The researchers said that they found further controversial works during visits to mosques in Manchester, Birmingham, Edinburgh, Oxford and High Wycombe.
The Times has learnt that five of the books that were acquired by researchers had been also found in searches during Scotland Yard antiterrorist investigations since 2001. About half of the books collected were in English – raising questions about the emphasis placed by the Government in combating extremism by training more English-speaking imams. The other publications were in Arabic or Urdu. The report, The Hijacking of British Islam, is published by the conservative Policy Exchange think-tank and was written by Denis MacEoin, a Fellow at Newcastle University and expert on Islamic issues.
The researchers found hardline material at a quarter of the 100 mosques visited during the project.
The report said: “On the one hand, the results were reassuring: in only a minority of institutions – approximately 25 per cent – was radical material found.
“What is more worrying is that these are among the best-funded and most dynamic institutions in Muslim Britain – some of which are held up as mainstream bodies. Many of the institutions featured here have been endowed with official recognition.”
A key theme of the books was a “strident sectarianism” which told Muslims that they should remain separate from other faiths and resist integration. The report stated: “Simply put, these notions demand that the individual Muslim must not merely feel deep affection for and identity with his fellow believers and with all that is authentically Islamic. The individual Muslim must also feel an abhorrence for nonbelievers, hypocrites, heretics, and all that is deemed ‘unIslamic’. The latter category encompasses those Muslims who are judged to practise an insufficiently rigorous form of Islam.” Most books stopped short of calling for violence. But they created a climate of intolerance and contempt for nonMuslims that could be exploited by violent jihadists, the researchers said.
The report called for a radical overhaul of Britain’s relationship with Saudi Arabia, which it argued has a “powerful and malign” influence over British Islam and sponsored the export of fundamentalist Islamic doctrine.
Regent’s Park mosque said that the bookshop on its premises was run by a private company. Yunes Teniaz, of the London Central Mosque Trust, told The Times: “The bookshop is franchised to a separate organisation. These books express their authors’ opinions and not those of the London Central Mosque Trust.”
Inayat Bunglawala, the MCB assistant secretary-general, said: “Bookshops sell a variety of publications and we live in an open, democratic society where it is not illegal to sell books which contain antiWestern views.”

Fundamental views
Extracts from works found on sale in British mosques
“And if he apostatises after that, his head should be chopped off, according
to the Hadith: ‘Whoever changes his religion, kill him’.”
(Fatawa Islamiyah – Islamic Verdicts, volume 5; reported found at the East
London mosque and the London Central mosque)
“Whoever takes part in stoning a married adulterer is rewarded for that, and
it is not fitting for anyone to abstain from it if a ruling of stoning is
issued.”
(Fatawa Islamiyah – Islamic Verdicts, volume 6; reported found at the East
London mosque)
“Some Kinds of Women Who Will Go to Hell
1. The Grumbler … the woman who complains against her husband every now and
then is one of Hell.
2. The Woman Who Adorns Herself.
3. The Woman Who Apes Men, Tattoos, Cuts Hair Short and Alters Nature.
(Women Who Deserve to Go to Hell: East London mosque; Muslim Education Centre,
High Wycombe)
The irony of course, is that it was one of the Imams of this Mosque who has been left blinded by a NON-MUSLIM attacker indiginous to this country, only a few months ago. So, it begs the question that which group of people are more influenced by "hate" material?. I see more non-Muslims acting upon the diatribes of most of the British media and attacking Muslims, than the other way around.
lizzie, London,
This goes beyond our traditional values of freedom of speech, of the press or of thought. This activity is incitement to murder, of violence, of riot, of hatred. It is clearly totally illegal and immoral. All of this material should be banned or destroyed. The perpetrators should be sent away from our shores or be relieved of their unjustified freedom.
Any idea that my opinion reflects a restriction of freedom would ignore the even greater restriction of freedom being advocated.
Alan Sparke, St. Rémy sur Lidoire, France
Wouldn't you find violent, sectarian and male chauvinistic views in numerous passages in the old and new testaments. Does that mean those need to be banned in this country as well.
Under God's direction, Moses' army defeats the Midianites. They kill all the adult males, but take the women and children captive. When Moses learns that they left some live, he angrily says: "Have you saved all the women alive? Kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves." So they went back and did as Moses (and presumably God) instructed, killing everyone except for the virgins. In this way they got 32,000 virgins - Numbers 31:1-54
Abu Mariam, Luton, UK
Why post here? Our western governments have already surrendered to the Islamic's, there's little point in complaining, Islam has won and the West in it's apathy has lost!
Nathan Hal, Brisbane, Australia/Queensland
Dare I say... God / Allah etc. are man-made creations. Everyone is killing and hating for what? Why can't humanity not live by compassion, love, freedom, democracy, ethics, generosity etc. (and criminals are just criminals not 'evil')
Why does it take some unseen being to do any of these wonderful viruous actions to live by?
They say if God didn't exist there would be chaos. What a selfish way to behave and a abhorent excuse. Humanity needs god to have some control on how society behaves(?)
Should we behave whether by hate or peace towards others and how we live only becuase of the existence of some god?
What a sad world humankind has created - just to be a 'good' person to go to heaven.
We should respect every member of the human race based on being human not by what relilgion or bellief you are - is that so wrong? And not who's club you belong to.
If a god exists - he must be testing, to see who hates who and why. If you kill, hate, despise, bigot, racist, condemn...
Richard, London , UK
I, as a Christian, in a Christian country, deemed 'an unbeliever' and obviously unislamic should feel positive about the fact that the report found: âOn the one hand, the results were reassuring: in only a minority of institutions â approximately 25 per cent â was radical material found." and, in most books violence was not encouraged - just abhorrence of anyone not following the strict Muslim faith (including 'normal' Muslims)
Surely if such material was found in 25% of our churches there would be a huge, and justified, outcry for an investigation into this blatant racism and encouragement of hatred towards other members of the population.
Whereas in 'Christian' terms, heads would roll, in these Radical Muslim terms, heads would really roll - Scary!
Lianne, Warminster, UK
The proper reaction to such literature is ridicule rather than hand wringing. What is written is absurd and laugable as are the 'teachings' of some of the more extreme Islamic preachers. Stop taking them so seriously. The best way of puncturing the ridiculous pomposity of people who write this drivel is through satire. Just read some of the above about women and apostates. It's straight out of Monty Python. Pompous people hate being laughed at more than anything else. I for one think they're hysterical.
Paul Owen, Birmingham, UK
And this is a suprise because??????? The Religion of peace, is the peace of the grave.
Desmond taylor, Houston, USA Tx
Close all mosques peddling extremist literature and sell them off or bulldoze them. Do not allow mosque rebuilding in that area. Get rid of the extremist organistion the MCB. Deport all foreigners with extremist views. Do not give these people airtime. Recognise that this is a war on our turf and not a matter for civil law. Tolerance is a two-way street. Capitulation is the one we are living on.
David Smth, Stourbridge, UK
In 1980, I was seconded to the Royal Saudi Air Force from BAe Systems and worked at Al Taif, west of Jeddah
The first Friday in Saudi, I went to the Souq and around midday, when they were closing the stalls for Friday Prayers, I and other Christians were 'asked to come and witness the Punishment of Islam'
It was a 'request' - but we had no choice and were led to the car park opposite the Mosque and 'pushed' to the front
I couldn't believe it when I saw two Filipino men beheaded at a distance of no more than 20 yards !
I never went to the Souq again on a Friday in the year I was in Saudi, and when BAe Systems asked me to renew my contract, you can imagine my reply !
Within 2 months I was back in the Middle East in the Sultanate of Oman and would often spend the weekends in the Emirates
What a difference between the Saudis and Arabs in other parts of the Gulf!
Saudis are an arrogant people and shouldn't lecture us on terrorism and Human Rights!
......
Norman Tomlinson, Lancaster, England
Once again the MCB is shown for it's true colours. When Inayat Bunglawala, the MCB assistant secretary-general suggests that it is fine for these works to be disseminated by bodies, which receive large amounts of government funding and support, we know that there is something rotten in the state of this country.
The government needs to decide if it will take this issue seriously. It is quick to pounce on and criminalise those 'outed' as being Islamaphobic, yet fails to act against and indeed supports groups or bodies that openly seek to undermine the fabric of society.
Unsuprised of London, London,
This is not the essence of the Muslim faith and this is not what is Practised. The Muslim faith, like all other relegions is of Peace and tolerance . Is this Propaganda yet again?
Sam, Cape Town SA
Sam Hirji, Cape Town, South Africa
What's the surprise in this? Would Saudi Arabia practice one thing at home and pay billions of dollars a year to promote a dramatically different set of values on foreign soil?
Paolo Bagarino, Roma, Italia
It's an extraordinary inversion of values that allows mediaeval hatemongering of this kind to flourish. What do Muslims hope to gain from such calls to violence. What do Brits hope to gain from allowing it to continue? Farrukh's blase dismissal of the issue is even more worrying since it will resonate among those with tiny awareness spans and limited recall. Why does a threat to human rights have to be novel to receive due attention?
David Jooste, Johannesburg, RSA
Anyone watch the TV programme in the UK on Sunday night which showed how Wahabist islamic fundamentalists built an entire cell network throughout India that led to the massive atrocities (on both sides) in the Indian mutiny?
Is this report coincidental in confirming the comments broadcast then about continued extremist teaching in UK mosques? One has to be appalled that this same approach continues today in the UK. Why do we continue to turn a blind eye and accept "moderate" statements that there is really no problem?
Fred, High Wycombe, UK
"The bible too has its passages condoning violence" AndyN, Reading
The Old Testament ideology (an eye for an eye) was replaced with the New Testament ideology ( forgiveness, turn the other cheek, love thy neighbour). The Qur'an works the opposite way around. As Muhammad built up his army he became increasingly violent and intolerant. The later, and more violent, verses of the Qur'an replace the earlier and more tolerant verses through the Islamic rule of abrogation.
Quran 5:14
"From those too, who call themselves Christians, We did take a covenant, but they forgot a good part of the Message that was sent to them: so We estranged them, with enmity and hatred between one and the other, to the Day of Judgment. And soon will Allah show them what they have done."
5:51
"O you who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: they are but friends and protectors to each other. And he among you that turns to them for friendship is of them."
Non-Muslim, Dar al-Harb,
wendy mann, glasgow wrote: i always have to laugh at there being so many non muslim experts of islam and the koran, without any of them reading the koran, hadiths and all of the other scholarly works that provides insight and meaning and most of all understanding.
Indeed if all the non-Muslim experts actually read the Koran, the Hadirhs and the Sira, they would find complete understanding as to why "extremist" Muslims are not radicals but true Muslims. One can hardly claim that Ayatollah Khomeini, Omar Bakri, Hamza, the Imam of the Grand Mosque in Mecca, and a whole raft of Imams, have completely misunderstood the doctrines of Islam.
DaveP, Beverley, UK
I detect double-standards here.
Do you hear Muslims complaining about the books openly on sale in Britain which claim that Muhammad had sex with a 9 year old girl, or that Muhammad ordered the assassination of opponents?
Do you see the Times trying to track down the publishers of these books?
Steven Carr, Durham,
I think this says it all:
"..according to research seen by The Times."
Until this research hits the public domain are we expected to trust the analysis of journalists?
Jason Southall, Birmingham, UK
For your information most of the books listed are found at the Vatican and the major libraries in the non-muslim world. God's law is just and promotes justice, when man turns away from God then he must be punished either in this life or the hereafter. This you will find in the Jewish, Christian, hindu and Muslim scriptures. All you secularists and liberals it is time that you people turned to God and obeyed His law then there would be no need for punishment!
Edem, Birmingham, UK
The government and its agencies are devoting huge amounts of money to help Muslims "integrate" in the West. All of these are of no avail, as Islam is their faith, and these efforts will wash over them.
What we have to realise is that we do not have the right to tell Muslims in the West, how to behave, what to wear, or what is acceptable or not as regards religious freedom, homosexuality or women's freedom etc. Muslims believe what they believe, as their religion tells them to, and have no real choice in the matter. That is their human right, and we should respect that. It is patronising in the extreme for us to lecture them on these matters.
However, we do have the right to tell them to take their attitudes and go where such attitudes are acceptable. In this we will be doing everyone a favour, for I fear a civil war in Europe that will make Bosnia look like a garden party. This is inevitable, as Muslims are required by the Koran to wage war( Jihad) until Islam is dominant.
DaveP, Beverley, UK
Roy Ellor, Salford, UK: There is also the small matter of treason as these people are preaching the violent overthrow of the British State.
NuLabour removed the crime of treason from the statutes, knowing full well that their Muslim constituency would fall foul of it.
DaveP, Beverley, UK
so the truth is that the majority of people that have posted here havent actually read any of this 'literature' as described by the report commisioned by the neo conservative right whinger group - policy exchange .
so how do you comment on issues that you have no knowledge of, rely on reporters who may have vested interests, who may work for organisations with a vested interest in promoting dischord and knee jerks out of the closet?
we all can take things out of context and make believe our fictions . so what is the context for the writings, anyone?
no context means no understanding. more importantly no reading means bigotry led by ignorance.
i always have to laugh at there being so many non muslim experts of islam and the koran, without any of them reading the koran, hadiths and all of the other scholarly works that provides insight and meaning and most of all understanding.
these days we only need to read and believe journalists without doing our own research.
wendy mann, glasgow,
Melanie, Bagshot, UK wrote: Where on this planet is there a political regime that has the guts to say no to the islamafascists?
Switzerland. Switzerland is the only country that has direct democracy i.e., the people of Switzerland can enact laws or change the constitution via a referendum they themselves have the power to institute, which neither the government or the representatives in parliament can anull.
DaveP, Beverley, UK
We know what happened in Palestine - millions of them are pay a terrible price for the tolerance and good will of their forefathers.
Our descendants will curse us for not recognising that the wearing of different clothes, eating different food, keeping different weekends and celebrating different holidays will tear our society apart. It will cost us our jury system, our education system, our libraries and doctors and Parliament itself. We're sleep-walking into terrible danger - a calamity which will reverberate down the generations, just as it's done for the Palestinians.
Andy Dyer, London, UK,
So, from what snipents I've read are all Muslims, if they follow their faith, traitors against Her Majesty and the British nation and should be dealt with accordingly??? I just don't know any more. If you pledge alleagance to your god rather than your nation ( which may worship and follow a different god or doctrine what ever it may be) in a professional capacity (the forces, police etc), it makes you wonder.
Craig, Weymouth, UK
"Muslims are hated alike among diverse peoples like the Chinese..." -Magnus Nielsen, London, UK
As an ethnic Chinese person from a certain SouthEast Asian country, I am inclined to agree!
Though "hated" is a bit strong.
Pete, Cov,
-"Inayat Bunglawala, the MCB assistant secretary-general, said: âBookshops sell a variety of publications and we live in an open, democratic society where it is not illegal to sell books which contain antiWestern views.â-
So I asume that he would be quite relaxed about a books or cartoons that deride his faith?
Jan, Colombo, Sri Lanka
How depressing it is to read that some mosques carry the kind of material that justifies not only inequality but animosity to other people. How can religious people justify their belief SYSTEM when it is so divisive? It is religion and the mass elevation of a male god and prophet of God, which Buddhism, for all its' faults, does not encourage. I read your paper and it is full of men fighting each other, I switch on the television and have to hop, skip and jump over American films and television dramas about people killing or fighting each other. Those of us who simply want to live peacefully are constantly threatened by the idea of violence in our own towns and cities.
What a world we live in. Such natural beauty soiled by humanity. IT IS A WORLD EXAGGERATED BY OPPOSITES!
Jackie Gilbert, Bristol,
"The Bible and especially the Torah contain specific examples of hatred of "non-godly" beliefs e.g. adultery/homosexuality, and of violence against those who hold such beliefs.
Your article fails to even acknowledge this"
What a churlish comment. When was the last time someone went into a church or synagogue and picked up a pamphlet or book using biblical and torah references to endorse open hatred so blatantly. Or heard someone from the parapet preach such open hatred. Or see christians influenced to such a degree that even a small minority would blow up the Tube or shackle women and brainwash away their rights.
Robert Clayton - get a grip. Such whataboutery is devoid of reality.
Alison, London,
I told you so!
Surely freedom of speech in Britain does not extend to advocating that certain people should be murdered!
Incitement to violence is definitely illegal.
It is not on to hide behind the excuse that the bookshops do not belong to them. If you permit the sale of such literature you by implication support it.
I am sure that if a Christian bookshop was selling books advocating the slaughter of people who do not accept Christianity in full, there would be an immediate response from the Muslim community
billcarr, wakefield , UK
Why is it that we have to silently tolerate such behaviour by people that could on the whole be described as guests in our country? We welcome people in to our country and are expected to remain silent on such matters and those who dare pipe up and say something are condemned as racists. The muslim community must take responsibility for the actions of their own people and stop blaming everybody else. We are a tolerant society concious of human rights, but it is important to remember that these human rights extend to everyone, i.e. I have the right to be able to catch the Tube and not be afraid of being blown up. We are not a "muslim" country. We are a nation of mixed cultures. If you don't like this fact, then leave....
Kris, Bristol,
The report mentioned in this article makes its conclusion on nothing more than opinion. The article explicitly mentions that one mosque is connected with MCB in the first few paragraphs but then mentions that the books containing this so called "hate" are sold by a private retailer. The article says that 25% of literature found contains extreme messages yet only quotes two books.
In short, this is all the conclusions and out of context quoting of a group whose stand on Islam is very clear for anyone who is familiar with their previous publications.
Nathan, London,
Muslims should have an international football team and play matches at Wembley to legitimise their cause. Just like Israel.
manek, b-ham,
So. Where are the Moslems who say these items shouldn't be sold in their mosques? Why don't the moslems who go to these mosques, and protest that they are peaceful, work to keep extremism out?
Until the moderate Moslems take some responsibility for cleaning up their own sewer, they are dependent upon unbelievers to do it for them.
You can't be moderate and stand aside. Those who oppose radicals taking over their religion must take a stand within their own mosques, speak up, and demand to be heard. It's the British way.
Lee, Virginia, USA
Mr Bunglawala has shown himself just as reluctant as his predecessor, Sir Iqbal Sacranie, to prove his leadership credentials by ridding British Islam of those who write and publish this poison.
Ian Strachan, Twickenham, UK
Two Christmases ago my teacher friend (Anglican school) asked a class of 7 year olds in a middle class area in the South of England "Who is your hero?". The reply of one boy was chilling - "Osama Bin Ladan". "Why is that" she responded. "Because he kills bad people before they kill us". Why are our governing classes so willfully ignorant of the essential nature of the threat in our midst?
John, Birmingham, UK
The so called liberalism of the West will be its downfall. As a young graduate student in the UK in the 70's I could count the number of mosques. There were no football matches on Sundays, the Shops remained closed and so families could atleast have a day together if they were not Church goers. The children drifted and the pews in Churches became empty. Then the clerics arrived and made converts of children whose names are Christopher, Christian, William but no one questioned why the Evangelists couldn't make converts of Ismail,Tafik in the Middle East. Is a free West you say, but i challenge the do gooders to go to the Regent Park Mosque and offer for sale a book that calls for the beheading of everyone who wears a veil- no, no! thats provocation.But hear the cleric incharge-the bookshop is a franchise. Common every one wake up. You are daily destroying your Christian herritage and the cleics are filling the void.That void is yhe birth place of hate and terrorism.
Chimaroke, London, UK
âBookshops sell a variety of publications and we live in an open, democratic society where it is not illegal to sell books which contain antiWestern views.â
Inayat Bunglawala did not seem to be such an advocate of free speech when discussing the work of Danish cartoonists.
Sean, Epsom, UK
Churchill proved that appeasment never works. This so called "New Labour" has been appeasing left and right. We need to get tough now. We now have labour councils leaving the lights on at night for the burglars. If you put that in a work of fiction you would be laughed at.
Frederick, London , UK
If the mainstream representatives of the Muslim faith in Britain are so keen to change the widespread perception of their faith as being intolerant towards other religions, why do they not condemn inflammatory literature? Surely this is a great opportunity for them to set the record straight.
alan, london,
I find the comment from Inayat Bunlawala justifying the atrocities perpetuated by these books on the grounds that 'we live in an open, democratic society' hyppocritical in the extreme, given that when even one of their own, Salman Rushdi, dared to highlight verses from their Koran he was put under the death Fatwa. We are told that anything and anyone in the world is game for criticising except Islam.
I wonder how he can justify his stance and continuing to threaten the rest of the world against speaking unfavourably of Islam?
George Boulos, Reading, U.K.
"Mohammed...I don't recall any openly available Western literature calling for extermination of Muslims, so I don't quite see the double standard in wanting this stuff banned." -- Richard , London
Sir, who needs 'literature' when we already have Mr. Bush and had Mr. Blair practicing it in reality accross the Middle East.
Mohammed, London, UK
Why give these outcasts publicity neway - just leave them and their camels in the desert. Most Muslims do not accept the Saudi way of Islam anyway - the only reason we go to Saudi Arabia is to fulfil the Haj other than that - these Sauds are a displaced nomadic tribe - anyone read the House of Sauds?Islam is a religion of peace -
fred c, london, england
25% of mosques having the literature...does not mean that 25% of UK's (or the World's - as some people have sugested) Muslims have actually read it, believe in it and therefore are already radicalized.
Mohammed, London, UK
"Who in the right sense of mind wants to convert to lslam when we have Christianity? A relationship with the Living God full of grace, mercy, love, faithfullness, and is the Way the Truth and the Life." -- Virginia, Brisbane, Australia
As practised by Mr Bush and Blair?
Mohammed, London, UK
Thank you! Syman, NY, NY.
Mohammed, London, UK
Who in the right sense of mind wants to convert to lslam when we have Christianity? A relationship with the Living God full of grace, mercy, love, faithfullness, and is the Way the Truth and the Life.
Virginia, Brisbane, Australia
I think this kind of prejudice and fear of a culture that does not encourage integration were the elements that helped Nazism spread. We should be very careful when judging other cultures and people not to repeat mistakes from the past.
Thais, Sao Paulo, Brazil
We're in a catch 22 situation. If we send everyone back home (a bit tricky for those born here)
but let's stick with the jingoistic nonsense, or ban these books or people then we're as bad
as the people we purport to punish. We need a little perspective here... If I was to take
every single book I have read and believe it then I'd be in trouble. It's not as if every religion has some
text that everyone picks up and says it must be true... Wait a minute. We could be in
trouble here.
Trying to be constructive though... let people have access to both sides and let them pick the
better or worse side. It's called having a conscience. A nutjob is going to be a nutjob
whether they're muslim, christian, catholic (see pope), atheist, agnostic, ewok. Most however
thankfully have a conscience and realise the deeper truth. We're all here just trying to get along.
It's hard enough getting on with the in-laws (Matthew 1:14) let alone the rest of the planet.
Syman, NY, NY
Are you kidding? Just because a book on religion advocates violence, doesn't mean modern followers do. Read this:
"If two men are having a fight and the wife of one tries to help her husband by grabbing hold of the other man's genitals, show her no mercy; cut off her hand" (DEUTERONOMY 25:11-12, THE BIBLE)
Now, are all owners of the Bible harbingers of death too?
F, Surrey, England
To get a good idea of what things are like, would recommend reading The Islamist by Ed Husain. I wanted to know more about the idealogy of these "extremists" and he paints a very scary but honest picture of how easy it was for him to go down that path, but more importantly back out of it.
Having read it, I am not suprised by this news only suprised it hasn't come to light sooner.
R Scott, Essex, England
If this had been an office of the BNP distributing racist literature, you could guarantee a raid by the police. So why the hesitation from the authorities when there is clearly evidence that mosques in this country are being used as subterfuge to hasten the imposition of sharia law upon Britain. Islam and democracy can not coexist as commanded by the word of Allah. The sooner the non-muslims of this country wake up to this fact the better.
Robert Barker, London, UK
If majority of Muslims in the UK are supposed to be non fanatics and humane, then why is it that snce 9/11 more and more Muslims in UK have started wearing Long Beards, Burkhas in public. They are more in your face then before is it because they are proud of what happened in 9/11 and other such terrorist activites.
What is the point of CCTV if you are allowd to cover our face say at Heathow Airport. This must orry a lot of travellers. In other airports including thse in uslim Countries you are ot alowed too cover your face.
It is time for UK to wise up if it wants to preserve a good Country.
Vinay, London, UK
Even progressives such as this writer are now beginning to conclude that enough is enough. If people are coming here and preaching hate, then they are committing crimes against the laws of this land.
We have freedom of worship, speech and belief in this land. To incite murder or mayhem is to deny those rights to others. These individuals must therefore forfeit their right to remain here and be removed. There is also the small matter of treason as these people are preaching the violent overthrow of the British State.
Roy Ellor, Salford, UK
So, prosecutions for incitement to murder to follow?
Jessica, Reading, UK
By their actions you shall judge them ...
KR, Stockport,
Yet more evidence that we are sleepwalking to our cultural death. I'm not surprised that the Saudi Arabians are funding this vile propaganda that promotes hatred of our western values and culture, and most especially, subjugation of women.
The government won't act, it's too weak and will continue chanting its politically correct mantras until its dying breath. The trouble is, we'll all be dying with them.
What will it take for joe public to force an open debate and determine the policies that our 'elected REPRESENTATIVES' should implement?
Where on this planet is there a political regime that has the guts to say no to the islamafascists?
Melanie, Bagshot, UK
I recently read "The Islamist"; it tells the story of a young British Muslim who went full circle from true Muslim to Islamist and back again to true museum.
Most of these fundamentalists do nothing more than corrupt a peaceful religion. The vast majority cannot speak or read Arabic so they get their Interpretation from an Imam preaching a version of Islam that only exists because Saudi Arabia had Oil.
I am pleased to see its only 25%, but thatâs still too many. I hope true Muslims walk away from these mosques, and find their true faith.
Paul, Kingston, UK
This surely is proof that Multiculturalism simply does not work. Imagine the reaction if any other religion was to pursue a similar agenda in say Saudi Arabia, the heads would roll (literally) immediately. Fundamentalist Islam, or any other religion is at odds with a free and tolerant society.Islam though seems to feature the most high profile moaners. I am half expecting a Fatwa for writing this oh well c'est la vie.
Lewis Johnston, Leith, Edinburgh, Scotland
This article is testament to how much this country has changed over the course of 30-40 years. Once a great nation with a great empire: nationwide patriotism; christian schools and churches aplenty; little crime and "terrorism" being an unkown word. Integration and mulitculturalism are all but a mere myth, a idylic notion of bringing nations and people together. It is something that will never work and the fact that the government will blatently ignore the threat posed by these ever-increasing islamic institues is a very worrying thing.. i'm off to Australia - at least there their immigration policy is stricter than a muslim's faith and belief...
Greg Miller, Newcastle upon Tyne, England
A few books found and all is chaos, I sure if i went round book shops i would some books of hate about Muslims, so should we shut them down?
People say lets shut the Mosque down and all non-belivers should be be-headed.
Well the Holy Quran does not say about be-heading non belivers, otherwise none of you would of been alive today when Muslims were rulers.
Lets shut down all the pubs and ban alcohol which cause so much destruction and killings.
How come for years the zionist america has been funded the ira and was boming london quite often NOTHING was ever done.
If we raided the facist bnp office i'm sure we will find hate literature so are all christiians murderes.
Isalm is a peacefull religion.
Don't forget the so called British empire which killed and robbed the world, was that okay?
shah, Hertfordshire,
âOn the one hand, the results were reassuring: in only a minority of institutions â approximately 25 per cent â was radical material found. "
That's like saying, "Oh isn't it wonderful, only 25% of the world's Muslims want us dead"! Only 250,000,000 potential suicide bombers......
Paul Kelley, Columbia, SC, USA
There's a lot that's vile about hardline Islamism, and no sane person would disagree with this observation.
However, there are also increasing numbers of civilised, genuinely moderate muslims who are finding the courage to speak out. Unfortunately, they are not getting the backing and support that they need from the Government, who all too often give preference to the mouthy self-proclaimed "community leaders" who push to the front as it were. Perhaps the people who make decisions are too hidebound by a dreadful anxiety that they might seem racist or otherist to see clearly, and apply some hard rational thinking.
I think it's about time we picked up on and supported those muslims who really don't care to impose sharia, make women wear sacks on their head, kill gays and apostates.
Until that happens, the ugly side will prevail.
John P, London, UK
Wow I never realised there was such hatred towards the muslims, advocating kicking them out of the country and turn its back on the values it holds dear. Agreed if somone is deemed as a 'thread' to the country fine, and it has happened in the past, but kicking out all the muslims..brilliant.
As for Dominic, planning on stating a revolution are you? kinda sound a little like William Wallace very stirring indeed, slightly hypocritical but nonetheless very moving.
A Muslim, England,
I love the sound of knee jerking in the morning, sounds like Middle England.
Ben, The North, UK
Nothing new here, move along.
Farrukh, Woking, UK
I'm inclined to agree with Farrukh. The literature was probably always there in the Mosques. Did anyone carry out a year long investigation in the 80's or 90's?
The bible (in all it's comfort) advocates similiar punishments for similiar offences.
Hurray to Heathens.
Mark Taylor, Brighton, UK
Mohammed from London says allowing this literature "...is the price we have to pay for 'freedom' and 'democracy'.
You can't have it both ways". I think we can draw the line at books which call for mass murder and still preserve our freedom of speech. I don't recall any openly available Western literature calling for extermination of Muslims, so I don't quite see the double standard in wanting this stuff banned.
Richard , London,
Imagine if a church was erected in a muslim village in a muslim country advocating christian faith and condemning muslim doctrine. The horrors that will happen to those who dare will be unimaginable, if it is at all possible to erect such a thing in a muslim country.
Why is Britain so tolerant with these people? It boils down to Human rights issues, freedom of expression and freedom of religion, no doubt. Britain should adopt policies enforced in countries like Sweden and Denmark where people are encouraged to integrate and if they cannot they should go back to their homecountry. It is rather pathetic that these muslims chose to live in England and yet despised it at the same time!
Sheen O, Makati, Philippines
Michael Goodman, Bedford, UK wrote:
"A key theme of most Christian groups (especially Evangelical "born again" groups) is also ââ¬Åstrident sectarianismââ¬Â which tells believers that they should remain separate from other faiths and resist integration.
Shouldn't there be a headline investigation on fundamentalist Christians?"
No Michael, there shouldn't - this is a Christian country. And for the record, I'm an atheist and I'm against ALL religions.
Sam Nicholson, Basingstoke,
Does seem a bit odd to sell such literature and then say it's ok to do so because we live in an open democratic society. So it's ok to sell literature condoning violence but not ok for Muslims to leave their faith in an open, democratic society. Something is wrong there.
CW, London, UK
nothing better than to rabble rouse .. even more so when theres a war in the making .. so hate muslims and bomb iran ..everything is justified.
anyway good to see the moronic british rednecks out in force again i see - so easily provoked and spouting the very things that they claim for their perceived enemies.
wendy mann, glasgow,
What we all need to realise is that, like the political pendulum that swings left to right and how all of our beliefs lie somewhere on that spectrum, so do the views of the Muslim and their faith. HOWEVER, the views of Muslims who associate Islam with violence and participate in âterrorismâ cannot be found on the Islamic equivalent of that political pendulum. Therefore saying that these peoplesâ views are âconservativeâ or âextremeâ is false. One can be a strict, conservative Muslim without condoning violence. Their actual personal belief in Islam will place them somewhere on the pendulum (liberal, moderate, or conservative), but the participation in âterrorismâ does not place them on the extreme right or left of that spectrum. Indeed this issue is somewhere else all together, on a different spectrum. These people may be Muslims, but it is their political activism delivered under the guise of being Islamic that makes them violent, not the fact that they are âextremeâ Muslims.
Amirah, London UK,
The time has come to limit the number of mosques in the UK to the number of Christian churches allowed in Saudi Arabia.
The current state visit would provide an excellent opportunity to institute this policy of equality.
And Muslim men in the UK should have the same rights as women in Saudi Arabia.
Basically, of course, fundamentalist religion of any variety is the enemy of freedom.
Eric , London, England
It has long been recognised that the most virulent and anti-western form of Islam is that practised in Saudi Arabia and sanctioned by the state. It is also recognised that Saudi Arabia uses its oil wealth to spread this radical form of Islam. It is I expect probably the country where most of the radical Islamic authors live and derive their income from. This radicalism is also either allowed or supported by officials in the Saudi government. This begs the question, why was the Saudi king welcomed with open arms to Britain this week? Saudi Arabia may officially be a western 'ally' and supposedly stable country in an unstable region. In truth it is the prominent source of islamic radicals and the greatest threat to the west. Until British and other western governments recognise this the spread of Islamic radicalism will continue
David Lea-Smith, Edinburgh, U.K.
The people who run this country have ruined so many of its unique attributes. They have presided over the influx of hundreds of thousands of immigrants who have no respect for our way of life, and look at what has changed:
- higher security at airports
- curtailing of civil liberties
- vastly higher security costs
- many dead in 7/7 bombings (and more yet to come)
- increase in racial and religious tension
- overburdened NHS, roads, police, prisons, schools
- increase in domestic abuse of women
- arranged marriages, 'honour killings' and female genital mutilation
And the benefits? We keep being told that immigration is good for the economy, but it's hardly the 'man on the street' that benefits!
Alex McGregor, Plymouth, UK
The Govt are scared to tackle them (PR) and the moderate Muslims are scared of them, they must be laughing their heads off at the corruptible power they wield.
If they are scared of losing their identity and culture they should do what a number of posts suggest which is go to a more Sharia suited country like Iran or take the Indian lead which is integration with a very strong sense of their culture.
So if they hate western values so much why are they here? Single word "money" They will be prepared to take advantage of the benefits of a western society in the respect of healthcare and benefits while at the same time trying to poison its values from within by poisoning the minds of Muslim youth.
Three words, Hypocrisy, Hypocrisy, Hypocrisy!!
I do feel for the genuine moderate ordinary Muslims though that will no doubt be the victim of prejaduce and dis-trust because of hate preachers actions/words. More reason for them to stand up and be counted so people aren't confused.
matzi, reading, UK
I'm sure you won't print this, as it isn't 'a sensationalist comment' but I'll write it nonetheless.
Nothing can be gained by anyone continuing this Moslim/other faiths 'arguement'. All peoples are entitled to believe and have faith in whatever they will - it's nobody else's business.
However, any form of extremism, violence, terrorism cannot and will not be sancified in the name of religion. Surely in this day and age it is possible to get those who feel they have had wrong done to them, on both or multiple 'side' and flippin' well discuss the matter in a reasonable manner towards seeking a reasonable conclusion all round.
One needs to think perhaps, who is it that gains from such violence and war? Because there will be found the perpetrators - and no doubt large amounts of weapons sales, money etc. will be clearly evident
Tarni, London, UK
Lessons in hate found at leading mosques
Honestly, when I look at the history of India and Pakistan division this was charted by the colonial powers. Then the Muslims came about in the picture. All the yesteryears these were not Muslims. The earliest any one can recollect about Islam, Muslim, is when Osama blew the twin Towers. No one new all about the Muslim or Islam except that there was a religion.
Sir. I do not think the papers have doe justice to the Islam or the as you put the Muslim in the right perspective.
Muslim religion teaches exactly same as other religion. Let us put the picture in a better manner, a digestible manner. If you buy a box of apples with one or two rotten apples, would you throw away the box saying, âAll apples were badâ? The Muslim has no lesbians, gay or the Darwin. They do not believe in this. The holy book Quran tell them not to mock at any religion let they mock at you.
Now with this if people like Osama and Saddam, you cultivate a bad taste for the Muslim, how do I look at the Blaire era and Bush era.
The Great Britain as small Britain? No. I know that this is fallacy
I thank you
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Firozali A.Mulla MBA PhD, Dar-Es-Salaam, Tanzania
Why bring Christianity into this. We're not Muslims, our churches don't have books telling us to decapitate people!!!!
Yes we are told to be sectarian Mr. Michael Goodman, but only as "In the world but not of it." There is NO call, quite the opposite, to withdraw from society but to remember "our role" within it - to be light to the world.
And those of you, Mr. Robert Clayton and AndyR who sadly misunderstand my faith and try to claim we're told to do the same as the Koran sadly promote an uninformed misrepresentative view of the Bible.
Our former Muslim, now Christian, brothers and sisters in this country have to put up with a lot because of these teachings as do Christians in most Muslim countries. The Times has written articles on this in the past and the Barnabas Fund amongst others works to highlight and address the plight of many of these suffering Christians.
So please, leave us out of it. We're not causing harm but many of us have harm done to us becasue of this.
Thanks.
Nathan, Inverness, UK
Another golden opportunity for the majority of "moderate" muslims to openly declare where they stand on these "fundamentalist" issues. After all, they, "Islam is a religion of peace". Who is fooling who? Our government continues to play out an elaborate charade of trying to convince non-muslim Britons that there is nothing to be alarmed about. It's policy of appeasment towards the growing threat of Islamic fundamentalism/radicalism in Britain has allowed it to thrive. When the battle lines are drawn, guess which side the "moderates" are going to align with? What ever happened to the British Lion? We have become a nation governed by gutless leaders and a soft target for just about any group of peoples. The heritage of this nation and the legacy that countless have died protecting is being surrendered without a whimper.
MCB, thank you for clarifying (not!) your stance in language that we have become familiar with in this country - politically correct jargon.
David Pitan, Surrey, UK
During my childhood in various Arabic speaking countries with very strict laws, nearly sixty years ago, where we all obeyed the rules and kept our arms covered, and generally towed the line out of courtesy for living in a distant country, that is how the expat comunity lived!! Our Britishness was tolerated, but we had to live by the law of the country we were in. We were also subjected to some very frightening riots and general civil unrest, where we used to hide under our beds. Very terrifying.
There are always overseas rules, whether you are in the States , OZ,Hong Kong or wherever. Why is there so much government apathy towards potential troublemakers here, and why are we, as good citizens, exposed to utter nonsense in our homeland , Great Britain. Can we do this government for hurt feelings and anxiety, due to the perceived terror we are all now being subjected to. I thought our laws in these Islands were meant to represent sanctuary for us, not a corner of a foreign field!!
mrs maggie snook, Wareham, Dorset
Same old same old, anyone who regularly visits the UK's number 1 political website (in terms of number of hits) will know that this is nothing new. Educate yourselves before its too late, talk to friends and neighbours who you suspect are sympathetic and casually mention that political website:
www.bnp.org.uk
thank you.
John, Stoke on Trent,
Michael Goodman,
Are you saying that you believe mainstream, respected Christian churches are advocating violence toward other groups? Are there mainstream Christian churches that are stating that women should not vote or go out in public?
I have trouble understanding how you can even think that the two religions offer equivalent levels of encouragement toward violence and segregation.
If your point is that Christianity has flaws as well then I can't see how anyone can argue that you are wrong we will merely disagree about the pervasiveness of such flaws. But if your argument is that Christianity is not perfect so how can we hold any religion to any standards since no religion is perfect then have a rather weak grip on reality and I feel rather sorry for you since everyone will fall short of perfection.
Allen, Little Rock, AR
My father, a Palestinian jew, could not fight in 1939 as he was not British. So he joined the merchant navy and helped that way, being torpedoed three times. He did it so we could live freely.
That freedom should give me the right to say that the notion that people living in the UK can be allowed to peddle this filth in the name of their God is simply that - filth. If they don't want to live in our country let them leave - if they do they need to get real and stop this hate.
It beggars belief that when our cultural heritage is thought to be wrong, we have to stop (foxhunting for instance) but we just sit there and accept theirs as if they have the secret to perfect existence.
It is strange that when they are here, certain Muslims want the same rights as any other British person. Strange because they consider no jew in Israel has such rights - even if they are born in Israel have no right to be there.
Antisemitism in the UK is growing - and I think we import it.
anne, Bournemouth, UK
25% of mosques having the literature, and that's a minority......phew what a relief.
5% is a minority, 25% is a quarter.
Sounds like it's quite a problem.
MGB, Carmarthen, Wales
Just because some shoddy think tank has presented some shoddy research does not make it a âfactâ or the âtruthâ. Anybody can make anything appear as something else when it is quoted out of context or even misquoted. It was this same think tank that was behind the production of a C4 Dispatches programme: Preachers of hate. Under police investigation, it was clearly found that the programme producers had manipulated the contents.
Imam, Wolverhampton
Imam, Wolverhampton,
I am sure we can find all kinds of information/literature in all libraries, offices of political parties, and religious centres. For example we find the following quotes from the bible and I am sure that good Christians will tell us that they mean something else:
Do not allow a sorceress to live. Anyone who has sexual relations with an animal must be put to death. Whoever sacrifices to any god other than the LORD must be destroyed. Exodus 22:18-20
(Jesus said) "But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them - bring them here and kill them in front of me." Luke 19:27
"He (Jesus) said to them, 'But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one." Luke 22:36
Imam, Wolverhampton
Imam, Wolverhampton,
What the British public do not know is that the Holy Qu'ran requires such practices of muslims: not only capital and corporal punishment for crimes and misdemeanors and the taxation of unbelievers [sunna 9:29] (infidels and people of the Book: Christians and Jews), but also the refusal to accept the rule of a non Islamic government, to "make war on Infidels who live around you" {sunna 9:121]. The Holy scripture itself demands the overthrow by force of the host society unless it converts to Islam.
We say extremists put forth these views but fail to point out that the above injunctions apply to all Muslims, even the mildest citizen. When will the MCB issue a proper denunciation of the chapters which urge war on its host society?
We need a written constitution to spell out a separation of religion from State, to protect liberties and to spell out what is treasonable.
michael Joe, stoke, uk
"Islamaphobia" started after 911. A large majority of people around the world didn't even know what Islam was. You'd hardly find any news articles in our media re: Islam, Muslim's, Terrorism..etc, before 911. Radicalising of Muslims started after America's Illegal invasions of Afghanistan, Iraq and the killing of innocent Muslims, based on deliberate disinformation about Iraq's W.M.D's.
Mohammed, London, UK
Very funny Robert Everitt!
Alex, London,
Islamophobia does not exist. I agree that provoking hatred is wrong. The Islamic community should stop provoking hatred by stopping the immoral practice of promoting the murder of those who leave their religion, "honor" killings and the like. As long as Moslems continue to promote hate in this way, it is not irrational for Christians, Jews, atheists, and so forth to fear Islam. Since a phobia is an irrational fear, Islamophobia does not exist.
Steph, New York, USA
Mr Clayton, the adherents of Judaism in this country don't go around blowing up buses and tubes and threatening to decapitate those that don't agree with them. They interpret the Torah in a sensible and modern fashion. It is a progressive faith whose adherents now live in fear of the muslim hatred peddled in the name of this 'peaceful' religion.
They abide by the law of the land and live in peace with their neighbours even if most of them, like you, would happily shovel them in to the gas chambers.. Islam is not. such a faith.
Jay, London,
I met a non-Muslim from the former Yugoslavia shortly after that country imploded in a cloud of civil war, racial and religious hatred and ethnic cleansing. She claimed this was a natural reaction of people to the "Islamisation of the land. The Muslims - who at first were accepted, then embraced - began to push for ever greater power with which to beat down the very people who had previously welcomed and accommodated them!
Lesson from Sarajevo - BEWARE! Today's capitulation to this 'ethos' may be tomorrow's enslavement - and then your future will be reliant on blood-letting in the streets, or total subjugation!
I reckon we should grow some **** ahead of such conflict and declare "enough is enough - fit in or push off!"
Kat, Manchester, MANCHESTER,
On the name of freedom of speech should we tolerate incitations to crime?
No
Rachid ben abdelsalem, Tunis, Tunisia
Is it not about time that our politicians woke up! For goodness sake when will they ever learn? Surely most people in this country realise what is happening therefore, cannot those that we elect, and stand ready in opposition, do something. Instead of wanting votes from all and anyone just to maintain their power can they not see the bigger England picture, we're all getting a bit fed up but nothing is being done.
Ian, England,
This sort of article always seems to bring the Islamist apologists out of the woodwork with their desperate attempts at moral equivalence. In 40 years of church going I can't recall a single instance of being directed to murder heretics, kill gays and members of other faiths or to subjugate women. None of my friends seem to be able to recollect these teachings either and I don't believe I've ever seen a book for sale in a church that would advocate these policies. Perhaps I've been going to the wrong churches. Perhaps it's just the difficulty of tying a millstone round someone's neck that discourages us.
Brigette, Edinburgh,
My point is that the article used terms extremist, fundamentalist, etc to characterize the booklets when in fact they are closer to being mainstream than extrem.
David QUilty, Boston, MA
This Country is just racist against Muslims and Islam.
Pedro Tam, London, U.K.
It's funny to me how many commenters here have redirected the criticism from Islam, whose believers will kill them if able, to Christianity, whose believers won't. The UK cannot survive if it persists in fighting imaginary bogeymen in place of real ones. British law even now, and some commenters here, would be less upset to see a Moslem monarch on the throne than a Catholic; be careful what you wish for lest you get it.
craig, Houston, USA
The main problem with espousing your own opinion, in the case of radical Islam, is that the imams and those in power tell their followers that they must follow these edicts -- that they are laws. However, they are completely contrary to the laws of democracy and the free societies of Great Britain and the US -- as well as other democratic countries. And they encourage their followers to ignore the laws of the country and follow the laws of radical Islam. That is why radical Islamists shouldn't even be allowed into the country. The law of religion should never supersede the law of the government. There has to be separation of church and state or there will eventually be chaos and anarchy.
Kimberly McAllister Sell, Indianapolis, Indiana
I'm sure Mr Inayat Bunglawala would have something to say if Churches sold such racist and sexist propaganda.
Islam will always be seen in a bad light by the rest of the World unless it tackles and sorts out the extremists within its ranks. Islam is institutionally racist and sexist
Richard Williams, Manchester, Greater Manchester
AndyN, Reading, very few people take most of the Bible seriously, apart from anti-abortionists, anti-gays and anti-Hogwarts, and the people that take up these issues can, and are, crticised. Unfortunately many of the Muslim faith take these readings very seriously and their is no opportunity for any criticism whatsoever within the faith.
David Leslie, Perth, Scotland
How can integration be achieved as long as intolerance and even hatred towards the infidels are latenly or overtly encouraged in the teachings of a basically separatist religious doctrine?
Ray, Hombeek, Belgium
When are our gutless, politically correct, police going to be allowed to act by their sociology degree holding chief officers. Will it be a case of not acting for fear of offending political masters that may ' Heaven forbid', block their promotion.
This sickens me - Give them one simple demand from the indigenous British people - either conform to our standards of tolerance, or leave.
Riley, Kyiv, Ukraine
The Saudi king is in the UK today, meeting the Queen - if this government had any bottle, they would cancel the meeting and tell him to leave.
I can remember my grandfather telling me 40 years ago that one day we would have this problem, and he was an uneducated factory worker. What he did have however was common sense, something sadly lacking in our Oxbridge educated ruling classes.
tony, birmingham, uk
-Take the debate!
It´s all "non-muslims" duty to take the debate as often as possible to convince them that we dont´accept religious violence. That we don´t accept apartheid against woman.
We must show them that word always is stronger then wapons.
We must show everybody that differnt belivs can exciste side-by-side.
Peter Ström, Vänersborg, Sweden
No wonder! these things could hardly be controlled. The situation may be the same at the underground and "legal" islam schools in the UK or in some of the Balkan countries like Bulgaria.
But what really astonishes me is the fact the the UK authorities still accept immigrants from such pro-islam countries and and the public opinion is directed against the immigrants from Rumania or Bulgaria.
The UK authorities should reconsider their attitude in these matters.
Vladislav Georgiev, Brussels, Belgium
I am a Muslim revert from Irish origins and I used to hate Islam, because I was foolish to get caught up in this kind of frenzy the media stirs up. The Western governments seems to forget that they are the biggest oppressors and spew the most hate of non western values via their 'reliable' media outlets and military machines.
carl o'donoghue, london, uk
I hope the BNP are increasing their number of candidates at the next election, they seem to be the only party that doesn't keep falling for this 'Islam is a religion of peace' nonsense.
tony, birmingham, uk
'Islamophobia' is nothing new; it is as old as Islam itself. Wherever Muslims settle in sufficiently large numbers, a section of that population will never be happy unless they are making a nuisance of themselves for the 'unbelievers'. Other societies have longer direct experience of Islam than Britain. Muslims are hated alike among diverse peoples like the Chinese, the Hindus, the Sikhs, the Buddhists and the Jews. And with good reason.
Magnus Nielsen, London, UK
There is a simple solution. Shut them down!
If these extremist mosques are preaching such violent and ridiculous material, they should be disbanded.
it appears that this extremist section of the Muslim community is our Enemy within. It needs to be rectified. One way, or another!
Mark, Kingswinford, U.K
Any suprise in this?
If nothing is going to be done about this for fear of upsetting moslems, then why bother to report it?
Mike, London, UK
It is time we gave serious consideration to removing all fundamentalist from our shores this country is no place for these barbarians.
D Case, Newquay,
The articles like these only provoke anti-Muslim feelings and Islamophobia and do not serve any constructive and cohesive purpose for inter-community relationship. Just look at the resposes you have! By sensationalising the situation the Times is unfortunately, helping develop a culture of communal hatred rather than friendship and co-operation. You need to intellectually enquire and debate the issues raised rather than help incite hatred against the Muslim community and its major places of worship in the UK. Any way, this is not the right way to refrom the Saudi regime and its system, who you actually meant to target !
syed, Southend, UK
I'm amazed that the Times have summoned the nerve to print these kind of columns and comments.
There are scary Suadi billionaires, one in particular, that have been gagging the press for years now with threats of law-suits.
Chris, Cheshire
Chris Johnson, Alsager,
Why is anyone suprised? Also, why is the funding of Brown from Islamic sources, a reported £300, 000 never mentioned?
Susan, London, UK
But if newspapers publish cartoons of the prophet mohammed it's okay for extremists to issue death threats and to run rampage and carry signs in the UK saying death to the infidel? And governments of the west condemn the cartoons as insensitive to Islam...Oh, I forgot, they're entitled to express their views, but we're not allowed to express ours for fear of death.
It's not that I'm anti Islam, I'm just anti dangerous extremist dogma (Theo van Gogh being slaughtered on the streets of Amsterdam for making a documentary, and Ayaan Hirsi Ali living in fear of an extremist taking her life).
Time for an Islamic reformation, in my opinion.
MC, Rotterdam, NL
A key theme of most Christian groups (especially Evangelical "born again" groups) is also âstrident sectarianismâ which tells believers that they should remain separate from other faiths and resist integration.
Shouldn't there be a headline investigation on fundamentalist Christians?
Michael Goodman, Bedford, UK
Why is it that some Muslims refuse to integrate into western society and condemn many western cultures and traditions even though they choose to live here? I believe the majority of britain is tolerant of the varied religions that are practiced in the nation so those Muslims which refuse to integrate should leave, Britain is not a Muslim country and we should not have to respect those that choose to have no part in the county. If you want to remain separate from other faiths and cultures Britain is not the place to be as we practice integration very well!
Sarah, Leeds, England
Many Muslims in Britain have views so extreme that they plainly do not belong here at all. Sadly the spineless casuistry of the authorities in recent years gives the impression that Islamic extremists can get away with all but murder, while hiding behind the disingenuous fig-leaf that "the majority of Muslims are moderate". As this investigation shows, such an assertion is scarcely sustainable and should not be used to provide false comfort in any event. The authorities should bring their shameful cover-up to an end and take the firmest action against radical Islam in Britain.
St G, London,
Listening to an Asian call in programme on a London radio station yesterday, not a single Muslim caller condemned the violation of human rights and the use of barbaric and draconian laws in Saudi Arabia, There is enough evidence with the western governments by now to conclude that Islamic values will never be compatible with ours , and the only choice we have to make is whether we want to drag our society back to the middle ages to appease our ever increasing Muslim population or preserve our way of life. The choice has to be made now, if its not already too late.
Mohan, London, U.K.
The Bible and especially the Torah contain specific examples of hatred of "non-godly" beliefs e.g. adultery/homosexuality, and of violence against those who hold such beliefs.
Your article fails to even acknowledge this.
Robert Clayton, London, UK
This really does have to stop. I'm looking to our fantastic politicians to put things straight, kick out the mullahs preaching this stuff, and the people selling it, and the people writing it..... And if those muslims who live here cannot actually stand to integrate and accept our libertarian society, I suggest they get on the first plane to Saudi or Iran....
But there I go, fantasising again - I mean 'our politicians' would sell their grannies for a houseful of muslim postal votes (filled in by the head man of the house, of course) wouldn't they? So what hope would the country have?
In the words of Private Fraser - 'we're all doomed'.
Thomas a Bucket., Birmingham, UK
What people seem to forget is that the MCB is an organisation set up for the sole purpose of protecting, bettering and furthering of Muslim causes, views and concerns. And nothing else. Whether that be the advocacy of the unacceptability of homosexuality, advocating positive criticism of militant terrorist leaders such as Sheikh Yassin, or furthering the subjugation of all second-class Muslims, and potential second-class Muslims, that we in the west know as women, one can be sure that there will be someone from the MCB using the powers of free speech available in this country (unlike, say, Saudi Arabia) to excuse what the rest of this country views as hate crimes, while all the while parading the concept of the modern Muslim women for the good of the liberal press and politicians, who cower in the shadows of political-correctness. Islam has to come out of the middle-ages and realise that it has become the social pariah of the 21st century.
Dan, Cambridge,
That's really going to encourage people to convert to Islam....if you change your mind, we will decapitate you.
Frank Upton, Solihull,
Wakey wakey UK. Home grown terrorism is real. Why? Because the values of freedom of speech and religion are being abused by these people. It is time to show that if you threaten the state, its people and abuse the western values you will be persecuted. Close muslim schools and mosques that promote hatred asap! Tear them down as well!
Andreas Andreou, Nottingham, UK
So much for the "relegion of peace".
Alan Trent, London,
Could we not provide tax payers money to erect huge billboards oposite these Mosques.Our subversive adverts with their waxed legs and barely restrained breasts,painted ladies enjoying chocolate flakes would be likley to get through to a few of the weird ones as they entered and force them round the corner looking for a top shelf magazine.The few (and there are always some) not stirred would be in more danger from their own side for batting for the other team.
I am onto something here - we have own methods so lets use them.
robert everitt, wolverhampton,
It's quite simple, i am so surprised the security services aren't aware of this. This kind of thing along with sermons were given by Ayotollah Khomeni during the 70s in all the mosques in the middle east.
If the British government thinks they are different because of their "multi cultural" stance they are mistaken.
The British are dealing with Religious fanatics who cannot be spoken to or convinced otherwise. To them they are already dead.
Mr Brown had better start waking up to the serious problem he faces.
John Turner, London,
"Inayat Bunglawala, the MCB assistant secretary-general, said: "Bookshops sell a variety of publications and we live in an open, democratic society where it is not illegal to sell books which contain antiWestern views.""
Thats the price we have to pay for 'freedom' and 'democracy'.
You can't have it both ways.
Nobody read's these books anyway, apart from a few fanatics.
Mohammed, London, UK
And Muslims wonder why they're treated with suspicion?
Neil S, Glasgow, Scotland
I'm a 20 year old Muslim girl. I've had issues with the religion for a very long time now and its when things like this are revealed that my faith weakens even more.
The religion should essentially be about your personal connection with God, why force your views onto everyone else?
These 'muslims' aren't only ruining other's lives, they're also runining their own and their family's without realising it. I agree with Dominic Lambert, if they feel they can't practice the religion the way they want to here, maybe they should go to a Muslim dominated country like Pakistan and see if they can really live with the full force of it.
S, Guildford, Surrey
Someone somewhere will be surprised.
Ellen Morris, Leeds,
These writings are by men who are simply following the example set by their "prophet " Mohammad and whos instructions as clearly given in the koran encourage violence killing and opression of all non-muslims. Islam is not a " great religion ", it is not a " religion of peace ", as many muslims claim, it is a bigger threat to world peace and freedom than Facism.
Michael Neve, Orpington, England
The koran calls for the death of those that don't believe in god. How can a "religion" like this be allowed to exist in a civilized country.
Bob Berrell, Leeds,
Read "Londonistan" by Melanie Phillips!
It's an eye opener!
The article above is the tip of iceberg. Our Govt and establishment have turned a blind eye to bombings in France and Israel for years which were funded by organisations in the UK. All in exchange for no bombings in the UK! This country is a breeding ground for Muslimism.
Leigh Thompson, Northampton, UK
Is it me or is there something more than a coincidence between this item implicating the Saudis with Moslem extremism. Surely not a cynical use of inflammatory information which is guaranteed to raise the hackles of a large number of those who read it.
It is a problem, it needs a solution, not another exercise in rabble rousing.
mike gee, bournemouth, uk
Quite simple ... shut them all down . Better done in an orderly fashion , than what will happen if this continues to go unchecked . The British Public will take matters into its own hands if the Authorities continue with these double standards . wait and see .
Benzo, Nr Chelmsford,
It's about time our mamby-pamby tolerance of this religion stopped, whilst I advocate that people should be entitled to believe whatever they wish - it is clear that Muslim faith is damaging to the way of life that many of us hold dear. It's time the government intervened, and all the mosques were siezed and destroyed - gatherings of people of this faith should be dispersed, and as a nation, we should be standing together as a untied force and say no more.
If people then wish to be muslims then they can do so in the privacy of their own homes.
I know many will no doubt see this as a contravention of human rights, but we can no longer afford to tolerate a society that considers hate crimes as politically and culturally acceptable. Religion is typically a form of mass social control and in this case muslims are being encouraged to support an attitude that is not eithically responsible - if they don't like the way things are then they should go somewhere else, not ruin my home.
Dominic Lambert, Witham, Essex, UK
The men who write and sell these books seriously need to go out and get girlfriends. Alas, their inability to attract any member of the opposite sex might be part of the problem.
Mike, Brighton, England
Will the last person to leave this country turn the lights off please.
Kevin, Birmingham, United Kingdom
Should I stay or should I go? The Clash.
Kevin, Birmingham, United Kingdom
The bible too has its passages condoning violence. Just goes to show, you shouldnât take religious books too literally. What is preached is surely of more importance.
AndyN, Reading,
The excuse for selling this literature is we "live in an open democratic society etc." according to the MCB assistant secretary.So why is it everytime some literature from the West is produced that they don't like,they riot in our streets and demand "death to the infidels".
We are expected to put up with offensive literature they produce ,but they will riot if we print anything they dislike.It's high time our authorities clamped down on this as we must be the laughing stock of the world to alow it to happen.
Mike, Dunstable, England
We needed a year-long investigation to discover this? If it was not for the craven capitulation of our politicians, police, social services and, scandalously, the judiciary to the nonsense that is Political Correctness, we would have admitted this long ago and expelled - or prevented the influx of - the enemies of the State who produce and peddle this dangerous and barbaric literature.
Can we see some action now please?
Bill McCann, Suzhou, China
What else do you expect from a backward superstition?
james longbridge, West Brawlington,
Saudi Arabia has two faces: one that pretends to be an ally of the West while the other simultaneously funds mosques, schools, imams in all Western countries that propagate a teaching of hate of western values and non-Muslims. The question we should be asking is WHY. And why are we so easily duped by the friendly face?
jane, seattle, washington
Nothing new here, move along.
Farrukh, Woking, UK
How many English laws does this literature contravene? I trust the police and the CPS will be prosecuting those involved?
imj, Abu Dhabi, UAE