Mick Hume: Thunderer
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The authorities and their opponents are fighting a phoney war over anti-terror laws, in which liberty is already the loser.
Our elected leaders are once more doffing their caps to a man in a police helmet. Gordon Brown and his ministers have indicated they will support extending the time limit for detention without charge beyond 28 days. Two weeks ago Sir Ian Blair, the Metropolitan Police chief, gave the Government its cue by demanding powers to hold suspects for at least 50 days. In how many cases had police found 28 days inadequate? Sir Ian admitted that the total is – none. Since the limit was extended to 28 days in 2005, only 11 people have been held for longer than 14 days, and eight of them were charged.
So is the proposed change in the law designed to get the other three blokes?
No, said Sir Ian, the point is that “at some time in the future 28 days is not going to be sufficient. If you can see an epidemic moving towards you, you take precautions before it arrives.” He raised the spectre of the summer’s failed car bombings to support his call. Presumably security reasons forbade him from explaining exactly how a 50-day detention would have prevented those surprise attacks.
The only “epidemic” in evidence is one of fear, being spread by officials via worst-case “what if?” scenarios. The panicky Government grabs at new anti-terror laws like a security blanket to give it a sense of being in control. Mr Brown made clear that he supported longer detention limits even before he became Prime Minister. Not at all like that nasty Mr Bair, is he?
Two years ago the civil liberties lobby claimed victory when MPs rejected Mr Blair’s plans for 90-day detention and voted “only” for a 28-day limit. Now the Government’s opponents talk as if defending 28 days is the height of civil liberties in Britain. But if the possibility of being locked up for four weeks without charge is the definition of a free society, then the right of habeas corpus is already a corpse.
Worse, these opponents can seem as guilty of fear-mongering as the Government, as they speculate about how longer detentions will spark more terror attacks by alienating Muslims. Shami Chakrabarti, of Liberty, even concedes that the limit could be extended if policing was brought to a “standstill” by multiple terror plots. A whiff of fear emanates from all sides. And as experience should teach us, that invites further attacks from the parasitic forces of terror that feed off our insecurities.
Benjamin Franklin suggested that “those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety”. In which case, those fighting a phoney war over whether it should be 28, 50, 90 or 500 days look likely to get exactly what they deserve.

Mick Hume is Britain's only self-confessed libertarian Marxist newspaper columnist. His Notebook column appears on Fridays, and he also writes a weekly Thunderer column. He is also editor-at-large of spiked-online.com. which he launched as the online descendant of Living Marxism magazine. Hume is an ex-grammar school boy from Woking with a season ticket at Manchester United who lives in London
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it seems that the US and UK Govt have taken to heart and really refined what countless Govt's before them have known...keep the population frightened and you can get away with almost anything to control them in a variety of astonishing, politically and economically gratifying ways. The number of cctv camera's in the UK promotes a big brother atmosphere and those who say "if u havent anything to hide you have nothing to fear fm them" are missing the point. the same attitude could be used with 24hr phone tapping for all afteral. The Uk population has allowed this Governent to strip so much freedom and "say" from them the nation may now struggle to find a legal voice to stop the rot. The UK is snoring while the politians and beaurocrats squabble and scheme. Perhaps a somewhat overly colorfull description..but just take a look around you and look at what your country has become.
zugerman, ZUG, Switzerland
I agree with Mr Dunford. What is it that the Police can't find in 28 days. If after 28 days they don't have sufficient to get someone even remanded then there can't be much reason to lock them up at all. What's more the Police have proven themselves to be untrustworthy on the matter. Walter Wolfgang the 82 year old heckler was roughed up by bouncers at the Labour Party conference and then detained by the police under the Prevention onf Terrorism act. Did the policemen actually believe that Mr Wolfgang was a terrorist? If they did they are more stupid than most people think they are. My suspicion is that they knew damned well he wasn't a terrorist but since he heckled the Home Secretary (their boss) they were keen to get a bit of off the ball action. The Police need to be kept on a tight leash and not let run wild biting any passer-by "just in case".
Samuel Gee, Farnham, UK
This constantly increasing proposals regarding imprisonment without trial is the hallmark of a totalitarian regime.... Big Brother strikes again.
During the IRA campaign ( a far more serious matter) there was no necessity for such a period of extended detention, nor was there in WWII, so why now ?
Has no one heard of the Holding Charge anymore. A suspect charged immediately with a comparatively minor but easily proven offence and while he was remanded in custody the more serious matter was investigated fully. ..... Normal procedure but, it seems, no longer appropriate... Why?
I suspect that most of the Terrorist legislative proposals are mainly empire building.
Brian Vallance, LEFKIMMI, Greece
Only trouble is, "they", won't get what they deserve, "we" will. The further away the goal posts, the more room for trouble in the gap opening up. They might not have held anyone for 28 days so far, but if they have 50, then 30 will seem reasonable. If they have 90 to shoot for then 30 will be ordinary, only beyond 60 will people question. How soon before this detention applies to all "incidents" being investigated? 5 years? Less?
They've already taken several hundred yards, forget inches. Now they're after the whole mile.
Peter Dunford, Bournemouth,