The man, the films, those blondes. Free DVD collection starting this Sunday

Edouard Manet's Olympia (1863) stirred a huge uproar when it was first exhibited at the 1865 Paris Salon. Conservatives said the work was "immoral" and "vulgar." Émile Zola quickly proclaimed it Manet's "masterpiece".
What do you think? Send an email telling us your opinion to mae@thetimes.co.uk
We're not looking for art historians or academic answers. Whatever your thoughts, we want to hear them. We will print a selection of your comments, alongside our expert’s verdict, in times2 next week.
Read the training tips and advice that helped our London Triathletes
Times Online's new TV show helps you make the right decisions for your pet
Read our exclusive 100 Years of Fleming and Bond interactive timeline, packed with original Times articles and reviews
The latest travel news plus the best hotels and gadgets for business travellers
Shortcuts to help you find sections and articles


Find tickets for:



Times Exclusive Tickets £25
2007
£47,700
2007
£41,899
2008
£41,445
Great car insurance deals online
£25,510 – 32,000
Transport for London
London
£50k
NHS
Nationwide
£
£90,000 + PRP
Essex County Council
Essex
100K
Confidential
London
5% below developer pre-launch price!
Luxury Appts, beautiful gardens w/ Thames views
Great Investment, River Views
By Funway – Thailand
from £589pp
Christmas Cruises
From only £995pp
APTs East Coast now from only
£2425pp.
Great travel insurance deals online
Contact our advertising team for advertising and sponsorship in Times Online, The Times and The Sunday Times. Globrix Property Search - find property for sale and rent in the UK. Visit our classified services and find jobs, used cars, property or holidays. Use our dating service, read our births, marriages and deaths announcements, or place your advertisement.
Copyright 2008 Times Newspapers Ltd.
This service is provided on Times Newspapers' standard Terms and Conditions. Please read our Privacy Policy.To inquire about a licence to reproduce material from Times Online, The Times or The Sunday Times, click here.This website is published by a member of the News International Group. News International Limited, 1 Virginia St, London E98 1XY, is the holding company for the News International group and is registered in England No 81701. VAT number GB 243 8054 69.
Olympia presents the ideal of an erotic pet with collar and other decorative artifices... The lady-in-waiting presents a contrasting modest portrait, her body fairly curtained in pink, offering a needlepoint rendering of what Olympia has lost. The small black cat represents Olympia's dinked soul...
Elan Durham, Santa Monica, CA/US
Throughout all time, humans have been painting women's nudity because they believed that it was the medium that depicted the ideal beauty . It is a matter of an objet, I think. Olympia is the same nudity that is beautifully painted on the painter's canvas just as Venus in nudity in many oeuvres.
Kim, Seoul, South Korea
While in its original intent it may represent ideas that are immoral and vulgar (the glorification of prostitution and servitude and also the class divide between races), now I think it should be viewed as an invaluable source of insight into the culture and ideals of a particular time in history.
Britto, Istanbul, Turkey
There's definitely something sad about this, but the way she
stares directly at the viewer is very challenging. It would, after all, have been the people viewing this painting who would have visited 'Olympia' and encouraged this situation. If she is immoral then her audience are no better.
Julia, London,
A 'staged' photo could not equal this picture. That is a part of what painting pictures is all about [Hockney].
Mark Macklam, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
It's no more immoral/vulgar than life itself is.
Patrick Frank, Monterey Calif., USA
Manet's 'Olympia' anticipates a selected scenario from John Fowles' 'Mantissa' by some 119 years. As you read that novel. indeed, you would do well to have a bookmark with a miniature image of Manet's work imprinted on it.
Peter Yates, Leeds, England
The sad, empty, vacant look of a soul who sells her body for favors and 'social betterment.' This portrait shows the vanity and dangers of immoral or amoral behavior.
It's a classic.
Lenben, Phoenix, United States
At the most Manet's Olympia it is just one of the many nude portraits, reclining nudes at that. So to single one out is wrong. Since it is a piece of art no different then the rest it is not vulgar.
Sean Makarin, Port Orchard, United States
She looks sad and used. The flowers do nothing to cheer her. Her overt pose is brazen, but her hand over her groin and the crossing of her ankles suggests she is actually uncomfortable with herself. I think the painting shows an unhappy woman whom Manet creates beautifully.
Felicity, Aylesbury, UK
I find it a disturbing and conflicting painting, and thus interesting. Her nudity invites to look at her and desire her, but her face and posture wants to show her superiority of aristocrat. She seems to say "I know what you want, come here to get it", but if you go you are screwed man.
Mario, Sao Paulo, Brazil
It was my grandma's mom, and she was very, very young. 9 or 10 y.o.
Elen, London, UK
The painting is disturbing, not because of the nudity, but the figure of the servant who is almost invisible, merging with the background, gives it another dimension.
Carl MacDougall, Glasgow, Scotland
I can't say that I'm a huge fan of "Olympia" because there is something disturbing about the nudity in the painting and the woman's gaze. I won't say it's immoral and vulgar though because if you know anything about Manet and the time in which he painted, you understand why he painted this picture.
Maliha Aqeel, Dubai, UAE
Exquisite. I had a framed poster of this painting in my room in Paris while attending university .Others had the usual ... but this seemed to me at once more sensual, more alluring, than any automobile or rock and roll star. And not too bad at demonstrating my sense of taste to women, either
Brett, Boston , USA
Immoral to depict the reality? France in the 1860s was Napoleon III's imperial dictatorship where human rights equaled zero.
Further more, Manet was clearly influenced by the evolving impressionism (Monet, Renoir, Pissaro et. al), that was loved for it's unsentimentality.
Christian Halsted, Copenhagen, Denmark